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Surname ROSE Y-DNA Haplogroup I1
Modal Haplotypes and Links to Test Results, Lineages, and Analyses
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Y-DNA Haplogroups Represented in the Project
E G I1 I2 J L Q R1a R1b T
This page contains the modal haplotypes for the Haplogroup I1 Groups from the ROSE DNA Project, with links to the results and lineage tables.
In the table below, the first row below the labels is the modal haplotype for Haplogroup I1.  This legend shows the color codes for distances from that modal:
Legend
Purple +4
Deep Magenta +3
Bright Magenta +2
Pale Magenta +1
Cyan 0
Pale Yellow -1
Bright Yellow -2
Yellow-Orange -3
Orange -4
Modal Haplotypes for Haplogroup I1 ROSE Groups with Links to Results Tables and Lineages
G
R
O
U
P
Panel 1 Standard Markers 1-12   Panel 2 Standard Markers 13-25   Panel 3 Standard Markers 26-37
STR PP3 PP5
3
9
3
3
9
0
19
/
3
9
4
3
9
1
a
|
3
8
5
b
|
3
8
5
4
2
6
3
8
8
4
3
9
i
|
3
8
9
3
9
2
ii
|
3
8
9
4
5
8
a
|
4
5
9
b
|
4
5
9
4
5
5
4
5
4
4
4
7
4
3
7
4
4
8
4
4
9
a
|
4
6
4
b
|
4
6
4
c
|
4
6
4
d
|
4
6
4
4
6
0
H4
|
G
A
T
A
IIa
|
Y
C
A
IIb
|
Y
C
A
4
5
6
6
0
7
5
7
6
5
7
0
a
|
C
D
Y
b
|
C
D
Y
4
4
2
4
3
8
  13 22 14 10 13 14 11 14 11 12 11 28   15 8 9 8 11 23 16 20 28 12 14 15 16   10 10 19 21 14 14 16 19 35 37 12 10
 
A Robert ROSE, England, 1634 to Wethersfield & Bransford, CT
13 22 14 10 13 14 11 14 11 12 11 28   15 8 9 8 11 22 16 20 29 15 14 15 15   10 10 19 21 13 14 17 18 35 35 12 10
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A1 William ROSE of Surry Co., VA; John ROSE of Southampton Co., VA; et al.
13 22 14 10 13 14 11 14 11 12 11 28   15 8 9 8 11 22 16 20 27 12 14 17 16   11  9 19 21 15 15 16 17 35 36 12 10
William ROSE (1622-1672) Surry Co., VA; m. Anne WRIGHT
John ROSE (c1718/27-c1792) VA; m. Elizabeth GRAY
William ROSE (c1730- ) Southampton Co., VA > Franklin Co., NC; m. Martha __?__
Theophilus ROSE (c1763- ) of Wayne Co., NC; m. Christian __?__
Reddick ROSE (1778- )
William ROSE (c1780s-<1850) SC/NC to Marshall Co., TN; m. Ms. BEADY?
Edwin ROSE (c1809-1878)
Allen ROSE (1810-1883) NC > Greene Co., MO
William ROSE (c1812- ) N C > Garroll/Granada, MS; m. Sarah GLOVER
William Amos ROSE (1827- ) SC/TN; m. Dorcas WILSON
Micajah William ROSE (1830- ) of Edgecombe Co., NC > KY > IL; m. Elizabeth OGDON/OGDEN
 
A2 RUOSS / ROOSE / ROSE
13 22 14 10 13 14 11 14 11 12 11 28   15 8 9 8 11 22 16 20 27 12 14 15 12   10 9 19 21 15 15 16 19 35 35 12 10
Melchoir RUOSS (1600- ) of Wuerttemberg; m. Margaretha __?__
 
DISCUSSION:  GROUPS A, A1, and A2

The RFA Bulletin (2009:5401) shows Groups A, A1, and A2 as "distantly related."  Well, yes, but everyone's "distantly" related.  The question is are they related in genealogical time, and the answer is, No.  Their superficial resemblance is based largely on the fact that all three groups are a perfect match with the modal haplotype for Haplogroup I1 at 12 markers.  At 25 markers, the resemblance starts to fall away, and at 37 markers, the distance increases.  Of the three, Group A is the most distant, and I see zero prospect of a common ancestor in genealogical time with A1 or A2.  There remains a slight possibility of a distant connection between A1 and A2.  As always, it would be desirable for everyone to upgrade to 67 markers to remove the ambiguity.

 
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